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Thread #168430   Message #4147736
Posted By: DMcG
18-Jul-22 - 06:14 PM
Thread Name: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
As you all know, I limit my posts to avoid pointless arguments, so this will be my last on this topic.

I was asking for ways to hold a vote that Labour could call to get rid of Johnson. In fact, the 'simple' no-confidence vote was the one I said said I would have gone with at the outset, so no, I don't think I have fallen into any kind of trap of inconsistency. I saw it then as possible, but unlikely to be successful.

But the problem is that does not work unless it can be strongly bound to a vote on Johnson.   Calling a vote that you would almost certainly lose that is not strongly linked achieved nothing. It achieves neither of the goals Labour might want: it does not get rid of Johnson, but nor does it show MPs supporting him: "we were supporting the government, not him."

To stand a chance it was necessary to break the lie that many MPs will have fallen for, just as I am afraid Nigel did, that voting for a no confidence leads to a General Election.   It is a deliberate misrepresentation of what must happen.