There is a podcast called "The Rest is Politics" by Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart which I find well worth listening to. The latest edition that I listened to today was an interview with Mark Drakeford who is First Minister of Wales and leader of the Welsh Labour Party. I thought he spoke a great deal of sense about his experiences of working with other parties in Wales. To me, that is also relevant to the tribalism on the various branches of the English Labour Party.