Since Charmion mentioned looking for jeans at LL Bean I thought I should see about ordering a pair of their flannel-lined jeans while they're still in stock. So many choices, straight leg, skinny leg, "true shape," and whatever the heck "boyfriend jeans" are. And then there are the lengths. So I headed to my closet with the tape measure. I've disaccessioned one pair that fit but was always short (turns out it wasn't just because I was plump and they'd get longer as I lost weight, they were a thrift store pair that were sized petite) and pulled out a couple more size 12 to measure the inseam. 30" is what I've been wearing. Then I poked into the end of the closet shelf and pulled out the folded pair of LL Bean flannel lined jeans. Women's size 8 tall. Probably my compromise to myself when I was shopping and wore size 10 because they were short on my actual size, I would roll up the cuffs (I probably shopped by measurements). But damned if I didn't manage to pull them on and fasten them. They're a little snug but not uncomfortable; possibly relaxed fit. So word to the wise - your "normal size" may be too big in the LLBean jeans.

I just saved myself $79. But they are really really nice jeans.

Dorothy, "puce" is a type of purple.