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Thread #168285   Message #4153930
Posted By: Steve Shaw
27-Sep-22 - 07:03 AM
Thread Name: BS: Trump Actions & Effects (NO new Trmp threads!)
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions and Effects
Don't be so insulting.

The party which got most votes in Italy is NOT the "very same party of Mussolini," and it behoves you to desist from making false and uninformed statements like that. The Brothers Of Italy party can be regarded as a descendant of the Italian Social Movement, a party formed AFTER the war, AFTER the death of Mussolini. The fascistic sentiments of the Brothers are similar to those of the defunct ISM but the current context is wildly different, which is entirely the point. Any Italian government must live within the constraints of the EU and there is little appetite in Italy for leaving. Your claims about fascism in Europe and in your House are way too simplistic and off the mark, and what you do is what you always do, throw the baby out with the bathwater. No-one is saying that there isn't a problem and that we should be complacent, but, as I've said, the threat of the return of fascism in Europe has been here since the war, it will continue to rumble beneath the surface and we need to be vigilant - and to address what it is that makes far-right politics attractive to disaffected people. We can talk about that, but your ill-informed, throwaway nonsense is not a sensible part of the conversation.

As for Trump, I've dismissed no such thing. In fact, for the last couple of years I've got myself in trouble here several times for criticising the complacency and near-paralysis in your country over failing to do something about him (preferably to put him where he so patently belongs, behind bars). "You don't live here so you can't know..." I've expressed the opinion that his re-election would be a danger to the whole world. So please stop making things up.