BBC Radio 4 today at 19.15 - will be available soon on BBC sounds

Playwright Ryan Calais Cameron, musician Stewart Copeland and is Morris dancing

The last 10 minutes or so are about

"Next Monday is May Day when morris dancers will perform at dawn to greet the summer. Morris dancing is itself enjoying a moment in the sun: Boss Morris, an all-female folk dance group, performed with the Best New Artist winners, Wet Leg, at this year's Brit Awards. Samira is joined by Michael Heaney, author of a new history of the dance; the musician Rob Harbron, who composes new morris tunes; and Lily Cheetham of Boss Morris – who will dance for us."

More details on Michael Heaney's book here:

The Ancient English Morris Dance