Joe: As on occasion before, I double posted this time because my first didn't show up on the threads list I had called up; I posted again, and when the list returned I opened the thread to find both postings. I've discovered that if you use the back arrow or if you click the forum home link, you get the version of the list from which you came, i.e., with nothing on it since you left it. Is there any way other than posting of calling up an up-to-the-minute threads list? --seed