I have spent over 60 years in researching all aspects of folk music. I said.. quote since we do not know, and there is no evidence to illustrate what he meant, i keep an open mind. I am not entering in to a silly competition, about who is the most knowledgeable music is not about competition nor is music research, music research is about good scholarship, good scholarship involves not making statements which cannot be backed up factually Gibb Sahibs comment about Lloyd, has not yet been backed up by fact, it is Lloyd bashing I am not arguing about Lloyds scholastic shortcomings I am pointing out that good scholarship involves not making wild statements that cannot be backed up , until gibb does so i think he is lloyd bashing