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Thread #172755   Message #4190940
Posted By: Steve Shaw
19-Oct-23 - 07:01 PM
Thread Name: BS: Hamas attacks Israel
Subject: RE: BS: Hamas attacks Israel
A completely stupid response. The displacement of Jews has nothing to do with the conflict between Palestinians and Israel. In the first half of the twentieth century, cock up after cock up, largely by weak Brits, allowed the Jewish diaspora to create the state of Israel, partly because of (fully justified) sympathy after the Holocaust outrage and partly because of terrorist Zionist gangs who bullied the region in order to get their state. That bullying included the enforced eviction of three quarters of a million Palestinians, creating a huge refugee crisis that has powerful repercussions even today. These are historical facts of which you are clearly ignorant, possibly deliberately, who knows. Israeli regime apologists, of which you appear to be one, are rather prone to ignoring history. It doesn't matter how badly non-democratic Arab states mistreat their people (and I'd remind you that most of those states have the west in their pockets. Oil speaks big, eh, and has us ditching principle after principle). That's whataboutery and is irrelevant to the current crisis, and you know it. Read what you like into my words but I've tried to stay measured in this thread. What I read into your words is that you have kept yourself wilfully ignorant of history in order to support Israel's outrages. As for me, as I've repeatedly said, I'm on the side of civilians on both sides of that border fence. I want the bloodshed to stop and I want both sides to recognise that they have committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.

And I'm very honest. I hope you can say the same. By your fruits...