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Thread #172755   Message #4192067
Posted By: Stilly River Sage
25-Oct-23 - 11:20 PM
Thread Name: BS: Hamas attacks Israel
Subject: RE: BS: Hamas attacks Israel
Participants in this thread have differing opinions regarding the guilty parties in the current Israel/Hamas war. There is no moral high ground. So far, 38 posts have been deleted, or 13% of the thread. When a thread like this includes wide-ranging information from other wars, from kind-of-similar-events, and whatever brain lint drips out through their fingertips, participants start dragging their personal soap boxes along to air their grievances about other people's opinions.

Keep in mind that if you post something about the war and in the same message post an ad hominem attack critical of other people's opinions, or snotty responses to someone you have a running battle with, that the whole post is gone, good point and BS. So just stick to the facts and leave the personal animus unpublished. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.

There is news today. The Israeli IDF have played raw video (46 minutes of it) for the international media; it includes body cams, closed-circuit video, and that taken from rescuers as well as what was captured on social media from both victims and terrorists at the time of the terrorist attacks. This is pushback against the photos of wounded children in Gaza that are all over the airwaves. They are making the case that the original assault was worthy of this bloody response (their reasoning, not my opinion). I haven't looked for any of those videos, and have no plans to share any. If there are any glimpses in the links below, my apologies, I didn't view the videos in the stories.

From The Times of Israel IDF shows foreign press Hamas bodycam videos, photos of murder, torture, decapitation
Government says it’s revealing horrific footage collected from various sources to the media in order to fight ‘Holocaust-like denials’ of Hamas’s massacres in southern Israel

From NBC News in the US: Israel shows Hamas attack videos as it tries to keep focus on brutality of Oct. 7 ambush
The Israel Defense Forces defended Israel’s bombardment of Gaza but acknowledged that “we failed to protect our civilians” from Hamas’ unprecedented attack.