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Thread #57490   Message #4209640
Posted By: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
11-Oct-24 - 01:55 PM
Thread Name: Spanish sea shanties
Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
Your very welcome. Why all the earlier interest in the 16th century one wonders?

...but as far as we know they had no text or tunes in common with what we call chanties.

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath waiting for that previously unreleased, long lost Hugill capstan vesper.

I find the "who" generally carries more weight in the conversation than the "what." Safe to say the chanty(man) genre label/job title was never really incorporated into the early 19th century working maritimes and has been adapted/adopted/appropriated/borrowed/stolen a dozen times over since. These days, could be anything between The Complaynt of Scotland and a TikTok video.

Google translate: saloma = chantey, with a "c." while the closest the Sea Shanty wiki ever gets to Spanish is Spanish Ladies.

Needs more & better glossary all around methinks.