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Posted By: GUEST,henryp
01-Jan-25 - 07:51 AM
Thread Name: Any November Songs?
Subject: RE: Any November Songs?
Saint Martin's Day or Martinmas and historically called Old Halloween or All Hallows Eve, is the feast day of Saint Martin of Tours and is celebrated in the liturgical year on 11 November. The feast day has widely been superseded by Remembrance Day. Farm hands were once engaged for the next year at a hiring fair, often held in October on Old Martinmas Day. Jack Beeforth, a retired farmer interviewed by Dave Hillery in 1974, recalled going to hire staff at the hiring fair in Whitby. And he also had a story about a hiring fair, published by Roy Palmer in his book, The Sound of History (1988). As Roy Palmer wrote, hiring was a very speculative and hazardous enterprise for both parties.

A lad goes to t'hirings and meets a farmer who says, 'Ista for hiring?' 'Aye', says t’lad. 'What can you deea?' says t'farmer. 'Oh, ommost onnything on a farm', says t'lad. 'Well thoo looks a likely lad', says t'farmer. 'Wheer were you last?’ ‘Wi' him over theer', says t'lad. 'Can you get yourself a character?' says t'farmer 'and then I'll hire you'. So the lad goes over to t'feller he were wi', and asks him for a character. 'Nay, lad, you deeant want to go wi' him. He'll hunger yer and work yer and you'll have a right bad time'. So the lad goes back to t'farmer. 'Well, have you got a character?' says he. 'Why,' says t'lad, 'I haven't got one for me, but he's just given me a right one for thee'.

I have put this story into verse. It’s a song about honesty; it’s needed on both sides. And, if you read the news, it’s clear that we still have problems agreeing fair terms between employers and employees!
Henry Peacock

THE WHITBY FARMER Tune; The Man in the Moon - see The Full English on youtube

A farmer he goes to the Martinmas Fair
To see the farm workers who all gather there.
Lad, ista for hiring? Hasta got a strong arm?
Says the lad, I can do onnything on a farm.

Chorus; Now you may be a farmer or follow the plough
But in this rough world we must rub along now
Wherever you go and whatever you do
In all of your dealings be honest and true

Well, thoo looks a good lad. Wheer were you last year?
Says the lad, Wi’ t’feller as stands over theer.
Now if he will put in a good word for thee,
Then I’ll hire thee this year – tha can come wham wi’ me.

Chorus

Now the lad he steps over to get a good word.
Nay, says his owd master, Lad, have yer not heard?
You deean’t want to go wi’ him and mek a new home.
He’ll hunger thee and work thee reet dahn to the bone.

Chorus

So the lad he goes back to the farmer again.
Have you got a good word, lad? the farmer says then.
Nay, says the lad, I’ve not got one for me,
But he’s told me to never go working for thee.

Chorus

The Full English - Man in the Moon   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfGzzhZfVs0

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