Hopefully this is a not too disagreeable point of order, and probably irrelevant to the discussion. I believe 'The Weaver and the Factory maid' was a broadsheet put to a traditional tune (The Irish boy collected by Sharp in Somerset) by Bert Lloyd to further his interest in industrial folk song. In the light of that my belief is that it can not be held up as any example of Traditional singing style. Yes it has a Roud number and yes there is the name of a singer William Oliver of Widnes, and no I do not believe he existed. I admit I have not read Roy Palmer's comments in the 1977 FSJ, so my mind is still open. It's still a belting song though. If anybody has info please start a separate thread, or it is not fair on Dick's OP.