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Posted By: GUEST,Julia L
30-Dec-25 - 05:26 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Down in the Willow Garden
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Willow Garden
Here's a bunch of stuff I found while researching "Sally's Garden" sung by Carrie Grover of Gorham Maine and printed in her book "A heritage of Song" in 1954
Sally's Garden from Carrie Grover's Heritage of Song adapted by Julia Lane 2013
'T was down through Sally's garden one evening that I chanced to stray I met my true love Sandy just at the closing of the day They bid me take love easy just as the leaves grow on the tree But I being young and foolish to wed with him I did agree
My parents they are angry, they swear my love they will undo For keeping of his company although his heart to me was true But unless they do confine me or banish my love forevermore I'll wed my true love Sandy at home or on some foreign shore
Now wasn't I a foolish girl to ever wed with any man But 't was my love and my good nature that has brought me where I am But if you were a rake, love, or even were a rover too I'd sooner wed with my Sandy than any man I ever knew
I wish I was in Dublin City with my true love along with me With money to support us and keep us in good company With money to support us, a flowing bowl on every side Come drink, my boys, you're welcome, for I am young and the world is wide
You rambling boys of pleasure, give ear to those few lines I write, Although I'm a rover, and in roving I take great delight. I set my mind on a handsome girl who ofttimes did me slight, But my mind was never easy till my darling were in my sight.
It was down by Sally's garden one evening late I took my way. 'Twas there I spied this pretty little girl, and those words to me sure she did say; She advised me to take love easy, as the leaves grew on the tree, But I was young and foolish, with my darling could not agree.
The very next time I met my love, sure I thought her heart was mine, But as the weather changes, my true love she changed her mind. Cursed gold is the root of evil, oh it shines with a glittering hue, Causes many the lad and lass to part, let their hearts be ever so true.
Sure I wish I was in Dublin town, and my true love along with me, With money to support us and keep us in good company, With lots of liquor plentiful, flowing bowls on every side. Let fortune never daunt you, my love, we're both young and the world is wide.
But there's one thing more that grieves me sore is to be called a runaway, And to leave the spot I was born in, oh Cupid cannot set me free, And to leave the darling girl I love, oh, alas, what will I do? Will I become a rover, sleep with the girl I never knew?
You Rambling Boys of Pleasure (Down by Sally's Garden) DESCRIPTION: "You rambling boys of pleasure, give ear to those few lines I write. Although I'm a rover, and in roving I take great delight." Singer recounts finding and losing his love, and laments that his roving ways are incompatible with love and home. AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1784 (OBoyle-TheIrishSongTradition) KEYWORDS: rambling love homesickness FOUND IN: Canada(Mar,Newf,Ont) Ireland REFERENCES (10 citations): Gardham-EarliestVersions, "RAMBLING BOYS OF PLEASURE" Tunney-WhereSongsDoThunder, pp. 79-81, "The Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (1 text) OBoyle-TheIrishSongTradition 22, "Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (1 text, 1 tune) Graham-Joe-Holmes-SongsMusicTraditionsOfAnUlsterman 62, "The Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (1 text, 1 tune); p. 279, "The Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (a reprint of a G. Jacques broadside) Fowke/MacMillan-PenguinBookOfCanadianFolkSongs 59, "Down by Sally's Garden" (1 text, 1 tune) Creighton-SongsAndBalladsFromNovaScotia 47, "Rambling Rover" (1 text, 1 tune) Creighton-FolksongsFromSouthernNewBrunswick 52, "You Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (1 text, 1 tune) Guigné-ForgottenSongsOfTheNewfoundlandOutports, pp. 146-148, "Gold Is the Root of Evil (You Rambling Boys of Pleasure)" (3 texts, 1 tune) Wolf-AmericanSongSheets, #1963, p. 132, "Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (1 reference) Forget-Me-Not-Songster, p. 96, "Rambling Boys of Pleasure" (1 text) Roud #386 BROADSIDES: Bodleian, Harding B 17(250b), "Rambling Boys of Pleasure," J. Evans (London), 1780-1812; also Harding B 11(3222), Harding B 25(1596), Firth b.25(189), Harding B 16(219c), Harding B 15(250a), Firth c.18(237), Firth c.18(238), 2806 c.16(193), Firth c.18(235), Harding B 11(34), Harding B 16(220b), Harding B 20(22), Firth c.26(259), Harding B 28(144), "[The] Rambling Boys of Pleasure"; Johnson Ballads 614, Firth b.25(315), "You Rambling Boys of Pleasure" LOCSinging, sb40467b, "Rambling Boys of Pleasure," J. Andrews (New York), 1853-1859 CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "Down by the Sally Gardens" (lyrics) NOTES [273 words]: There are several examples of this in the Bodleian Library Broadsides Collection, dating from 1802 to 1892. Beginning around 1850 an additional verse began appearing going more or less like." "It was down by the salley gardens...." It is very likely this is the "half-remembered" verse that Yeats used to write "Down by the Sally Gardens." - SL O'Boyle says that the "down in Sally's Garden" lines are in the first verse of the 1784 American manuscript in the Baker Memorial Library at Hanover, New Hampshire. Of the Bodleian broadsides, "The Rambling Lover," Harding B 11(3222) c.1850, 2806 c.16(193) c.1850: include the line "Down by yon valley gardens." Firth c.18(237) n.d., Firth c.18(238) 1850-1899: include the line "Down by yon sally garden." Harding B 15(250a) 1858-1861, Firth c.18(238) 1850-1899, Harding B 11(34) n.d., Firth c.26(259) n.d.: include the line "It was down by Sally's gardens." A closely related broadside, Bodleian, Firth c.18(234), "The Rambling Lover" ("Come all you gay and merry friends and stay with me while I do write"), unknown, n.d. includes the line "It was down by a flowery garden." The one to compare to Yeats' is an unrelated broadside, Bodleian, Harding B 22(262), "Sally's Garden" ("It was down in Sally's garden"), unknown, n.d. It may be the same ballad as the illegible Bodleian, Harding B 25(1724), J.Jennings (London), 1790-1840. One of Guigné-ForgottenSongsOfTheNewfoundlandOutports's texts is a fragment from Bodleian broadside Harding B 15(250a), cited above, that includes a "Sally's Gardens" verse. Another is a fragment collected in Newfoundland by Kenneth Goldstein and Aiden O'Hara.- BS