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Thread #174179   Message #4234617
Posted By: Backwoodsman
19-Jan-26 - 10:34 AM
Thread Name: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 4
Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 4
”As (presumably) a supported of Labour, does this cause you problems?”

I’m not, and never have been a ‘supporter of Labour’. I am an opponent of Far-Right and Far-Left ideologies equally and, if I had to state my position, I would say I tend towards slightly left-of-centre.

”Are you seeing a strengthening Reform Party (and a weakening of the Conservative Party) as a threat to your position?
If not, then surely it is just a further split in the opposition.”


I am seeing a strengthening Reform UK Ltd rooted, as it undoubtedly is, in racism and anti-semitism, embodying the most Right-wing elements of Conservatism, and thus with an ideology seemingly designed to benefit the extremely wealthy at the expense of the ordinary Joe and Jane, as a threat to the majority of the population of this country.

”I totally disagree with the quoted position. Although you say he has his 'finger on the pulse' you do not (necessarily) claim to agree with him.”

I believe he makes very good points that agree with to varying degrees. Overall, he has it right, in my own view.

”The UK as a power outside the 'EU' can espouse a viewpoint which either matches that of the EU, or takes a different path.”

The UK has always been able to take its own path politically, the EU has never required its Member-States to be universally politically aligned.

”I believe that the USA (or Trump) will see them as two totally separate views, and will give them each their own relative 'weight' when considering how his plans are going down 'across the 'big pond'.

The idea that UK is a non-entity if it is outside the EU is, I believe, false.”


I believe you underestimate the strength and importance of an EU that included the UK, and I believe you overestimate the strength and importance of a UK standing, as we do currently, alone. This is, itself, the false premise on which the greatest act of national self-harm since the end of WW2 - Brexit - was sold to those daft enough to fall for it.