It is a shame that this thread has degenerated to hate posts (Helen and Donuel). That this is combined with TRMP comments makes it far too confusing for me to try and impose rationality.

A writer once remarked that there's a limit to how sane you can be, but the boundaries to illogic are limitless. People achieve a region where they glory in it.

I'm gonna remind the posters that Hamas started a real, honest-to-God war on Oct. 6, 2023, and it is still going on. The TRMP war on Iran was a follow-on, but Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthi are payees of the Iran regime.

Meanwhile, a somewhat intelligent to-the-points conversation that speaks to multiple points that have come up on this thread:

"we live in some kind of Hunger Games dystopia online - no guardrails."