I am right there with you, Peter T and Kendall, as far as the incidents you cited. But that is not the nature of what was asked. This thread was predicated on a personal relationship, such as a friend or lover, and that is why I responded the way I did. In the area of professional relationships the dynamic changes, but not as significantly as one might think. As Saul Alinsky noted, "No one is your friend forever, and no one is your enemy forever". Of course he was speaking from a tactical point of view with regard to community organizing. I can think of one supposed union person, who used his position to screw over some recently organized workers just to politically embarass another union official. I will see this person in a bar someplace, and ..........well, I will let your imagination do the rest. But it will not be intellectual discourse. No forgiveness for those who let their personal politic get in the way of our mission.

Mick