Wow, you folks need to find new jobs! I can't imagine spending all day, everyday, doing something so stupid and boring that you are able to convince yourselves that ripping off your employer is really in their best interest.

How about trying this: find things to do at work that are interesting and profitable, and encourage all your co-workers to do the same. Take over your department, whether you have a "manager" or not. Become a self-managed workplace. Set higher quality standards. Improve the product. Find out why and where you have all this slack time, and find out the same about your co-workers. Figure out how to combine all that spare time and use it to do your manager's work. Go to your manager's boss and tell him or her that your department can get all your manager's work done even if the manager is gone. Get a raise for eveyone. Better yet, go work for a small company where people acutally get treated like people. It usually doesn't pay as well, but it is worth it.

Come on, folks, you spend most of your time at work. It sounds like many of you are getting bored, discouraged, and ethically challenged by being completely disconnected from what you are doing all day. You might have better lives if you were to engage in what you are doing, or go do something else that interests you in any way.

John Peekstok