Right you are, Swamp-dog. As Clinton said "it depends on what you mean by 'is'"--in my post the key word needing definition was "for." Lying for the reason that lying itself is fun vs. lying for the reason that the lying will result in fun. Or maybe the word needing definition is "lying." [lying being the present participle of the verb to lie; laying being the present participle of the verb to screw. pedantically yours, --seed