But Seamus......Some people think they're slicker than a mini's peter. I have no idea what that expression means, but anyway somebody was looking for a price on a case of the things. So do you think my crap would work better then goretex? Since I respect your opinion Seamus I could send you some additional crap to try. Of course you do say you've had enough and all............Maybe it was a bad batch? One thing about my crap and goretex.....both are made in the USA.

Spaw