Aha! The truth is out. Bruce O. used to be a sheet metal worker. I KNEW you were a bloody tinker Bruce *GRIN*

Bert the boilermaker.

P.S. Before anyone takes this as serious, this is just fun. There used to be a lot of good natured banter between boilermakers and sheet metal workers (who we used to call tinkers). Actually a tinker is a mender of pots and pans, and sheet metal workers generally disapprove of being called tinkers.