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Thread #32934   Message #436448
Posted By: mousethief
09-Apr-01 - 12:39 PM
Thread Name: BS: BUSHWHACKED-TEN!
Subject: RE: BS: BUSHWHACKED-TEN!
Bush … chose not to correct the undercount of more than 3 million Americans ….
If they're not counted, how do you know there are more than 3 million of them?

Not sure if I should even respond to such a numbskull question. Are you saying that if you're not counted by the census, you can't be counted any other way? Just because you're not counted by the census doesn't mean we can't be sure you exist. This is asinine.

The Democrats believe that every person, like every vote should be counted
No, the democrats believe every BALLOT should be counted, spoiled, disqualified or illegal. "Vote Early and Often" (how offensive)

Clever. Avoid the question (the census) by bringing up something unrelated (the Florida election). This is typical of your argument style, but far from intellectually honest. Which also is typical, I suppose.

The Republicans clearly do not..A disproportionate percentage of people of color, children and the urban poor are not included in this count
Of course they do, but COUNTED not estimated. If they can't be bothered to come forward and be counted, then THEY DON'T EXIST!

Ah. This explains the inanity in the paragraph covered by my first response. Republican logic at work. No comment necessary.

3-14-01 Bush's senate Republicans defeated a measure yesterday that would have kept medicare surplus from being spent on anything other than Medicare, or Debt reduction
Good, that means the working stiffs will be getting a tax cut.

And medicare recipients will pay for it. How Republican.

"You can't say one thing and do amother" GWBUSH, Orlando Sentinel 10-31-00 Bush broke his Explicit Promise to reduce harmful emmissions
A mother? (Ahem, I mean) You mean that horrible harmful toxin CO2?

Didn't even respond to the point, which was that Bush LIED THROUGH HIS CROOKED TEETH. The fact that he was lying about CO2 or H2O or waffle syrup doesn't matter a gnat's ass.

The impact of floods, droughts and deadly heatwaves and crop failures will have crippling consequences on the US, the world and the economy
Yes, it snowed here today (8 Apr), we still have several feet of snow standing on the lawn (it's so damn hot).

Proving what? How does snow in one place prove that global warming isn't real? Global warming is a matter of overall temperature of the atmosphere, not spot temperatures in one place. Even Republicans should know this. This is beneath even MAV. Hey MAV, is somebody using your log-in account while you're not looking? They're an idiot. You should make them stop.

Plants turn CO2 into Oxygen (which can kill you if you get too much). Plants (crops)like WARM TEMPERATURES, WATER AND CO2! CO2 is a non-issue!

Ah. Republican Science at work. Plants eliminate CO2, so it's a nonissue. Do you have any estimates of the amount of increase in CO2 in the atmosphere, the CO2 processing capacity of the total plant population in the bisophere, and whether or not the latter is capable of dealing with the former? Thought not. No, this is science by wave-of-hand. You must be taking lessons from Rush.

3-23-01 Bush Breaks Another Promise: Plans Cuts in Child Care and Child abuse Prevention.Bush's promise "to leave no child behind" now sounds like other notable Bush betrayals, like the promise to reduce greenhouse gas emmissions. He plans to cut grants that help low income families afford child care by 200 million: child abuse prevention by over $15 million, and completely eliminate the $20 million "early learning fund" Also, considerating large cuts in the $235 Million programs that train pediatricians and other doctors in childrens hospitals. About 900,000 children suffer from abuse or neglect each year.
Like I said....failed redundant programs and "nonessential" union thug bureaucrats.

More name calling. You're a great one for providing proof of what you claim, MAV. It must be redundant and nonessential - it's run by union thugs. And again, more lying being justified by - what? It was okay for W to lie about this to get the demo votes because these programs really suck? Um, okay, I guess that's Republican Ethics at work. Remember this, Democrats and Independent voters: if the Republicans really don't like something, they will lie about supporting it just to get elected, then go back to what they really think after they are in office.

Remember when clinton shut down the government and blamed the Republicans? NOTHING HAPPENED!!!

I don't remember this. I remember Newt Gingrich shutting down the goverrnment (not allowing the budget to be voted upon, if I recall) because he was peeved at Clinton. I don't remember Clinton shutting down the government. This is Republican Selective Memory at work. (Also note that proper names, such as names of persons like Clinton, are capitalized in English. I hear community colleges teach lessons on this sort of thing - you might look into it.)

Did it ever occur to you that Republicans have children, love their parents and grandparents, like clean air and drinking water?

Let's see them prove it by their actions. So far they leave a little to be desired.

More land was confiscated under the clinton administration than ever before in US history.

Confiscated? I'm unaware of this (no doubt the fault of the Liberal media) - can you provide proof of this?

You don't really think there will be mining and drilling in National Parks do you? Another bit of scare propaganda.

I pray you are right. If not I will shove these words down your throat so far they will come out your ass.

3-17-01 Bush administration filed a motion today, to postpone the date when one-third of our national forests would become off limits to developement. The move opend the door for negotiations between the Bush Administration and TIMBER INTERESTS.* big surprise! This act would overrule Clintons Roadless Forests Designations
Guess what, they grow back.

Hey, MAV, get this through your thick skull: Old growth forests NEVER GROW BACK. Thinking otherwise is Republican Botany at work.

The government shouldn't own huge tracts of land anyway, that really is socialism.

By and large, the government PAID FOR those lands. Why shouldn't it own them? Making them get rid of it is redistribution, which IS in fact socialism.

If they are going to allow land use, they should charge handsomely for it (to reduce the citizen's tax burden). However it should either be in private ownership or given back to the Indians.

Absolutely. Like the free or nearly-free ranching we allow on public lands. Let's charge market rate for that. But wait! We can't do that! Ranchers give big bucks to the Republican party. Never mind, it'll never happen.

3-22-01 Bush's Federal agencies blocked today, an initiative to help save the Pacific Salmon, a Clinton initiative.
Simply because it's a clinton initiative, it should be opposed.

This is a joke, right? Tell me you were joking, and really aren't an unthinking knee-jerking moron.

Had I mentioned that bipartisan *BLEEPS*?

Yes, people from both sides of the aisle doing something together that's right for the country, and not just for one party's support base, is to be avoided at all costs. This isn't Republican anything at work, it's just moronic.

In his zeal to pay back his donors and oppose ANYTHING John McCain supports, GWB would rather let the bill die than to do anything truely beneficial for the American people
I think you have that backwards, democrat McCain would rather pursue his own anti-Bush agenda than do anything truely beneficial for the American people.

If I recall, McCain has been pushing his CFR since long before Dubya was ever on the national radar screen. So your shrill comment here is baseless, and even if it weren't, it doesn't refute the claim made, but falls into the category of hand-waving.

3-20-01 Continuing his Texas record, Bush will carry on with Judicial appointments that do not reflect the make up of America
I think we already have enough LSC judges to represent the political makeup of the former USSR and the CHI-COMS!

Huh? What does that have to do with ANYTHING? And how does it justify what Bush is doing with his judicial appointments?

and has gone so far as to RECIND 10 apointees for judgeship that Clinton submitted.
That's not enough, there must be some more!

I'm really beginning to think you are incapable of actually thinking, and find opposing anything Clinton stood for a reasonable substitute. Sad, but not wholly unexpected.

Bush rejected Judge Gregory, a African American, the first to sit on the bench on the 4th US court of Appeals
I'm sure he was a staunch conservative. (I don't care what color he is)

The problem is that it begins to appear that Bush DOES care what color he is. And your flip comments do nothing to dispel this notion.

and BOTH Virginia REPUBLICAN senators approved his appointment on a permenent basis
He's just less PC than they are. You can do that when you are the President.

Not for long. Not and get re-elected. And the question is not PC-ness, it's RACISM.

3-21-01 Bush Blows Off Electoral Reform. Bush returns to Florida as Administration refuses Extra Money for Federal Elections Committee. He refused a request fot 5.5 Million over two years for its office of election administration, the only federal office with power to address how elections are run. "George W Bush , Jeb Bush and the Republican party are at it again with their double talk, two step strategy. On the one hand, they send out K Harris, to say they are in favor of reform
It's not a federal issue since there is no such thing as a federal election.

Now this is hand-waving at its absolute finest. I guess we'd better get rid of all the rules in the constitution about elections, since there aren't any at the national level.

Technical niceties aside, elections for federal offices are usually called "federal elections" by people in the United States, whether they fall under any definition of "federal" in any particular dictionary. Your ignorant and attention-shifting remark does nothing to change this fact, nor justify Bush's actions.

Discrimination continues to be a serious problem in America
I dispute that premise and suggest that discrimination is against the law and can result in prosecution or lawsuits.

And everybody knows that there are no problems in America except those that are completely legal. This is doublespeak, MAV. We know it's illegal. It wasn't claimed otherwise. The problem is not the legality of it, but the reality of it. And if it's illegal but Bush's justice department isn't going to seriously fight it, then it may as well be legal.

In all, MAV, you do exactly what you accuse your detractors of doing: a lot of name-calling and hand-waving, but no substantial argumentation or proof for your outrageous claims.

By the way, what in the hell is dextrorphobia? I found "Dextrophobia" (fear of the right side of the body) online, but no dextrorphobia. Those who taunt and insult others for their misspellings should watch their own fingers a little better.

Alex