Chris, It might be worth your while consulting with the people at NPU(Na Piobaire Uilleann) in Dublin Email: npupipes@iol.ie (Liam McNulty) who run the 'Mother Ship' when it comes to pipes, piping and pipers the world over. Good luck with learning to master the Hives of Honeyed Sound and rem. what Seamus Ennis said that it taked "21 years to master the uilleann pipes. 7 to learn, 7 to practice and 7 to play" PJ Curtis.