Fine, Alex, if your defense of all this is that I'm irrational and talking bullshit and psychobabble and you insist on telling me what does or does not "have a place" in discussion, that's the way it is.

Whatever.

I don't call that debate, I call it tyranny.

Try doing some research before you dismiss soemthing as "psychobabble." Looking at one website doesn't count.

Training in rhetoric? Yes, in fact; I teach writing for a living.