Oh - just another couple of other points and then I REALY must go....:-(

He did not say we British don't exist

Quote from the speech - "The British are not a race" Not a race seems to be a pretty clear statement to me.

nor in conflict with anyone here, except Dave. ..... As far as I have seen, his speech seems to have been generally well received.

Quote from the Manchester Evening News "Postbag Debate"

We asked if you thought Robin Cook was right. The response was overwhelming; more than 9 ot of ten callers said no. Yes: 7% No 93%

Perhaps the "Well received and Not in conflict" statements should read well received by everyone except ignorant Mancunians who don't count anyway...?

Ah well - you know what they say. There are lies, damned lies, statistics and political speeches...;-)

Cheers

DtG