Re. Hesperis' post - did anyone see the BBC2 doc. last week about The Arcane Wizards who all seem to have met up at catering College - Top w***er was boasting how he had hexed people and made their life a misery. The funniest tho' were all the sly visual jokes the BBC had slipped in e.g. interviewing "Orpheus" on an Underground train; best was a very earnest discussion on the origins of modern hermetic magic in front of a fairground sign of Mickey Mouse (as the Sorcerer's Apprentice)Cheers ChaliceRaven