Sorry Tedham....I knew that and am well aware of his background. It was simply a phrase I should have thought more about when I typed it. My apologies if I led anyone astray by its use.

M.Ted........Thanks as always for the complete areticle post. Much appreciated.

NH Dave.......Excellent post and I couldn't agree more. "Here kid, take this gun and kill those bastards before they kill you." Trained in that way and then sent into that situation, why are we surprised that these things happened? A lot of people want to believe they would have done things differently than Kerrey and others............Somehow, I doubt it.

Spaw