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Thread #7575   Message #46142
Posted By: Pete M
19-Nov-98 - 03:00 PM
Thread Name: Anti-war songs from WWI
Subject: RE: Anti-war songs frm WWI
Very good point Rich, wasn't it Dylan who said: "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."?

Anyway, it raises a point I've been thinking about, and on which I would appreciate others views. Although the songs of the first WW are not my strong point, it is of interest, and it seems to me that generally when we talk about "anti war" songs we tend to lump together songs from three, or possibly four, quite distinct origins and with different purposes.

1. True anti-war ie pacifist, songs.
2.Songs decrying a particular war.
3. The "Sod the war, sod the army, and sod the bleeding CSM" type
and a possible fourth - "Why did you have to go and get shot to hell?

Of these by far the largest number, best known and possibly the best in artistic terms is No 3 into which virtually, if not all those identified by Songbob as "Trench" songs fall. eg "When this bloody war is over", "They were only playing leapfrog", D-Day dodgers" etc. I would also include "Hanging on the old barbed wire" in this category althogh it could also be included in (2). It is much harder to find "Folk songs" that come into the first two categories, notwithstanding Rich's contributions above (Possibly "Ye Jacobites by name" for (2)? and the only pacifist folk song that springs to mind is "Where have all the flowers gone?").

I would be interested in other's views.

Pete M