I am a newcomer to this debate. Yes, I write "colour", not color", and I hope that I have "honour" too ! But for me, the thing about land that the character that you have been discussing is the leader of is this ... by electing Bush, the US has joined that sad group of countries that has a mass-murderer as its leader. How many was it at the last count ? Over 150 ?

When The US Government announces the immediate abolition of the death penalty, the disbandment of the NRA, and the removal of the right to bear arms, then I will feel able to consider that country's aspirations to be the leading civilised country of the western world !

Best Wishes, CHAZZZM