I can buy them in Ohio, either at a Ben Franklin (five-&-ten type store) or a hardware store (a real one, not a Home Depot warehouse-type place). These are new, with metal, not glass scrub-boards. I know that nice, old hardware store in Downtown Schenectady closed a few years ago, but there must be some place that took up the slack. If you can't find one, and you're going to Old Songs, contact me there and maybe we can work something out.