It may be because I am tired to start with, but it strikes me that this is one pointless thread. To consign an entire category of music to the Devil simply means the consigner has never bothered to ask him/her/itself what the people in that category are trying to do, and, given that, how to tell the good examples from the bad examples. Except for those others who posted in protest to the rating idea, this is an exercise in subjectivity.CC