The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #35448   Message #483749
Posted By: InOBU
14-Jun-01 - 08:44 PM
Thread Name: Creeping Friends, Quaker Creeps?
Subject: Creeping Friends, Quaker Creeps?
Well let's see in answer to Murzzy's mention of his Quaker parents, Carol mentioned her misadventures among Friends, to which, my observations of my parent's trouble in our meeting led to... a fellow catter saying
"(somehow, the idea of a militant Quaker writing political songs leaves me a bit bemused)
To which I replied...
"Not to go fully overboard on thread creep, but, what makes you believe I am a militant? Personally, well, my relationship to the Quaker peace testimony is complex, but I suppose my position that the IRA is not a terrorist organization is the origin of that belief. My stand on the IRA is a matter of law, not conviction, and I, especially at this time in my life, am fairly sure I myself would not have taken up arms in Ireland, though I would not make a blanket condemnation of ONE side that did, anymore than I would condemn those who fought in Spain. I reject all fundamental statements, life is a continuing set of circumstances and decisions which are individuals responsibilities to make. As to Quaker emotional violence DON'T YOU KNOW IT!!! There are some gentle Friends - but my family were alienated from the meeting as they were artists, only I remained, because I was able to keep with a small peer group of like minded, gentle Friends. Carol, I hope you get beyond the scars I know so well... Cheers to all my sister and brother African (Irish English Asian Pacific Islander....)American mudcatters... Evangelicals as well :-) Larry "Bloodaxe the Horrible" Otway
To which Brother Charlie noble stated his opinion that the thread creep was self-centered... when in came Carol who said... something... like Oh I forget... then Carlie came back...
"You may be right, Carol. However, the discussion of "militant" seems very self-centered and egotistical to me and maybe I should have been more specific. But this is my last post to this thread."
SO!!! As to not creep the previous thread... for those who are still on a Quaker sort of rant, or discussion or what ever!.... here goes...