True story Alex. three of us were having a conversation the other day, and one said, Well, it's like Jesus said about saving the best wine for last, and I said, well, it was a fellow at banquet making the comment, and the third said, well, Jesus was telling the story wasn't he? I said I didn't think so, then said, "Well, this is a sort of joke an Evangelical Christian might tell, - how many Quakers does it take to quote the Bible?" You KNOW what I mean, respond with passive - non-violent means, be passive aggressive? I don't know... Cheers, Larry