Okay UBDan I understand what you're saying now. The assholish part, that pissed me off, was the implication of selfisheness and singularity on John's part. I didn't get the same impression of blanket statements about never playing along but that some level of sensitivity is required even in sessions. The way the situation was presented that sensitivity was lacking on the part of the bodhran player. We were responding to John's request for assistance and support we may have answered differently if the bodhran player had posted asking what to do with a singer who cannot play along with his bodhran. Kind of an interesting idea actually...hmmm.