Yeah. The war of 1812 was another one that really didn't go terribly well (if you consider its original main objective: to take Canada, then called British North America), but it was hailed as a great victory. Mind you, it wasn't the complete and utter failure that Vietnam was...

I think flattop was just trying to screw around with our minds or provoke some sort of immoderate response.

My big disappointment was discovering that this thread had nothing to do with Bob Dylan.

- LH