True enough, Alex. Their religion was the Communist Party and its ideology, their prophets were Marx and Engels, and their holy books "The Communist Manifesto" and "Das Kapital". Their cathedral? The Kremlin. Same basic routine, except it was an Earth-based religion rather than a spirit-based religion.

This is what the atheist fails to comprehend, generally...he is following a religion based on various material considerations. I have seen blind faith demonstrated by atheists that is positively mind-boggling...at least as rabid as the faith displayed by the common religious fundamentalist, and resting on equally shaky ground, IMO.

However, I don't think MAV was taking pride in those "religious nuts with guns" founding America. MAV has a keen appreciation of the injustices perpetrated upon North American Indians, and he has talked with me before about that. He's what you would call definitely pro-Indian when it comes to such matters.

- LH