The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #35772   Message #490528
Posted By: hesperis
23-Jun-01 - 05:08 PM
Thread Name: Are Men The New Women?
Subject: RE: Are Men The New Women?
If the Amazon way is a cultural overlay, then why do you consider the opposite to not be a cultural overlay? (Or did I read that wrong?)

All people, (whatever their equipment!) should be strong, able to change their own tires, able to protect themselves physically, able to go after their dreams, etc. Anything else is probably a cultural overlay. People were designed to be radiantly healthy, strong, determined and interconnected individuals.

Many women in this society, myself included, were trained to be dependent on men for their needs. It is very insidious training. And the men were trained to believe that they didn't have any need for intimacy, or that it is a bad thing. That's just unnatural. And it is a cultural overlay. And it causes great anguish to people who don't "fit the mould". As if any individual really can fit a mould made by someone else!

I have done my share of playing in puddles. Love of playing in dirt is not just a guy thing. Though I am glad that the kid got a healthy connection with his uncle! His mother should lighten up. But she's not like that because she's a woman!

I was playing basketball in a park when I was 11 years old. There weren't very many other girls my age in the area, so the court was always full of guys. All the guys assumed that I was pretending to like the game in order to get a guy. They just couldn't understand that a woman would enjoy playing the sport, and want to play it because she enjoyed it. That's pathetic! (And I eventually stopped playing because I was being sexually harrased every time I tried to play. That's what I mean by "insidious training".)