But the only place I know where they held a referednum, in Ireland, the other week, the people voted against it - you'll catch up some day, God willing.

"I regret innocent people being killed by my agents, and I accept that it has been done, but I think that is a price worth paying" - that is effectively what Doug is saying.

Now if one of those innocent people were a member of his family, would he still say that? Surely he would have to, since nothing the family relationship would have no bearing on the principle involved. His "regret" might be sharper in such a case, but he would still have to believe that it was a price worth paying.