Thanks Dick, I did check out (Deep The Water)and then a second search with @BWI and got further along, though I don't know the how or why, I'm just learning to crawl. While I'm here with you, I'll say thanks to you & all your partners& helpers for this wounderful site and service. I've been enjoying and self educating myself in this kind of music for over 30 years, if I'd had this then I could've learnt in 5 what it took to learn in 30, Thanks. Barry Finn