What I was trying to say, Mick, was that 'both' sides in Ireland are forever blaming each other. The extremists have no desire for any kind of settlement. They all put forward proposals that they know full well will be rejected by the other side. I'm sure that the vast majority of people in the north (and everywhere else) just want the killing to end, but while this culture of constant blame exists, it just ain't going to happen.JC