David O: Normally I would agree whole-heartedly with you about ignoring ignorami such as Guestus Stupidus but Liz has been so delightful and the Mudcatters so much to the point that I think it has been worthwhile. I think the Guest must be getting cold comfort from his realization that he's been pretty much dismissed as not only crude and ignorant, but even ineffective in his chosen field. I have learned a lot about Mudcat from this.Sourdough