There aren't too many times that are really convenient for everyone. For example, 1800 EST is 1600 where I am, and my employer tends to think I should still be there (on Fridays, anyway). I usually don't get on-line until 1800 MST or later, and you folks on the 00 GMT line have mostly crashed. For me, even a little, occasional, live on-line music (and Noreen and Alison's sparkling reparte') is better then none. Keep trying.artbrooks, aka artandjenn