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Thread #8279   Message #51108
Posted By: alison
28-Dec-98 - 02:05 AM
Thread Name: Seachran Charn tSiail
Subject: Tune Add: SEACHRAN CHARN TSIAIL
Hi again,

Mission accomplished. Here is the tune done in 9/8 and 3/4.

I am a teacher of Irish music as well as classical music and, classically trained to a very high level both in practical and theory examinations, (just in case you thought I was waffling about all this. **grin**)

9/8 and 3/4 do sound very similar but 9/8 has a certain "swing" to it which I hope you can hear in the MIDI file. If you listen to the instrumental bits in between the verses, you will hear that the harp is playing (in places)the 9/8 rhythm while the guitar is playing a counter rhythm, which is the usual 3/4 type. Gives the tune a nice feel and sets off the tune (and is more interesting to listen to). it happens in most 9/8 tunes..... see if you can find a recording of "The Butterfly" for another good example.

Anyway... here are the tunes.. I hope you can hear the difference. As usual I have stripped the tunes down to the basics, (left out the twiddly bits because they vary). I had to increase the tempo in the 3/4 version to make it near to the tempo of the track on the CD. The accented beats, don't seem to fall in the right places.

I rest my case........ let the jury decide.

MIDI file: SEACH9.MID

Timebase: 480

Name: Seachran Charn tSiuil 9/8
TimeSig: 9/8 24 4
Key: D
Tempo: 100 (600000 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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End

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ABC format:

X:1
T:Seachran Charn tSiuil 9/8
M:9/8
Q:1/4=100
K:D
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MIDI file: SEACH3.MID

Timebase: 480

Name: Seachrain Charn tSiuil 3/4
TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
Key: D
Tempo: 140 (428571 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

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ABC format:

X:1
T:Seachrain Charn tSiuil 3/4
M:3/4
Q:1/4=140
K:D
A4B2|d4B2|A4B2|d4e2|f6|f4f2|f2e2d2|e6|e4f2|
e4d2|B6|-B4A2|A4B2|d4B2|A4B2|d15/4e9/4|f6|
f4f2|f2e7/4d9/4|e6|e4e2|d4c2|d6|-d4f2|f4a2|
b6|b4a2|f4g2|a6|a4a2|f4e2|d6|d4dd|e4d2|B6|
-B4A2|A4B2|d17/4B7/4|A4B2|-B/4d15/4e2|f6|
f4f2|f2e2d2|e6|e2e7/4e2d/4|-d4c2|d6|-d6||

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alison