There just isn't enough lilting around these days and a good lilter is worth their weight in gold. I am not too sure if it is the sort of thing you just launch into at a session. Like any other instrument, it takes time to perfect.Claire, the CD by Cathal McConnell and Len Graham in Pittsburgh is superb. I think I got mine from Elderly Instruments over the net. It is full of Cathal's very dry humour too which all goes to make him one of the most entertaining traditional musicians. And Len Graham - what a singer!