Shambles, you make Tweedie's point: it is perfectly easy to pick and choose which parts of the forum you go in to. And in case anyone else is mislead by Ed's post, it's worth noting that he and Jon are by no means as like-minded on this as Ed implies. Take a look at Jon's farewell, and it will be seen that he is leaving with good grace. I didn't sense similar good grace in Ed's post. For me, Tweedie's comments were right on the nail.