Loopy,

I will admit to agreeing with you, mostly. I agree that someone elses irresponsibility is not a call to me to support them. I will however be glad to help their human issue of such irresponsible behavior. Its not the kids fault that their parents are deadbeats.

But that discussion is a dark hole I don't want to navigate in this thread.

I won't agree that the VA Hospitals are well run. I have a friend who had a colonoscopy at the VA. No prep, no paliative procedures, several biopsys, just take the pipe and smile. Not even a cigarette when it was over. The diagnosis: Colon cancer, surgery in 3 weeks, you'll have a non reversable colostomy at the Governments expense.

He was in a state of shock. When his friends insisted he get a second opinion the diagnosis was: Major infection of the colon lining, lots of high priced anti biotics but the infection was 100% reversable. If thats the VA at its most efficient, I want my taxes to go elsewhere. Our vets deserve alot more than tis from Uncle Sam.

Don