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Thread #37166   Message #518831
Posted By: Anglo
01-Aug-01 - 01:27 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Add: Nine Times a Night
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Nine Times a Night
Well, Jon Raven sings it on "Ballad of the Black Country" and uses a variant of "The Outlandish Knight" for a tune. It's similar to the Fred Jordan version, with the shorter 2nd and 4th lines of that tune made up to fit the words.

Jeri's tune above is the one Lloyd used (and presumably made up. or adapted), more or less. Though a bit oral-traditioned :-)

I don't think I've heard Shirley Collins sing it (can any of the posters give a reference?); I can hear Frankie Armstrong in my head (again I can't come up with the recorded source), but I hear the Lloyd tune not the Boardman. I wonder if whoever posted it to the DT just added that tune because it was there without checking to see whether it was the same one.

The Boardman tune, though certainly in the idiom, I would categorize as unremarkable. It seems to be made up of bits of other tunes like Villikins, The Half Hitch & Swaggering Boney, though it stands on its own I suppose. But I can't see Frankie preferring it to Lloyd's tune which to me at least has much more character. [We're in critical mode today having just been reading the review of Frank Harte's Bonaparte on the Musical Traditions webpage :-)].