As M.Ted observes, theres more salesmanship than product in a lot of the stuff out there.

An old saying from the early days of computers:

"Any dumbass that let's his computer do his thinking for him probably doesn't do enough thinking to make a dumb computer look bad."

Unfortunately, that's not a popular thing to say in some circles anymore.

My assumption is that most of the people here are musicians first, and that they have some purpose (musically related) that they want to accomplish. The problem is to beat the program(s) into submission to make them do what you want (and it's a little different for each person.)

I'm optimistic that when the end product comes out of the printer, the musician in us will make the judgment on whether the job is done.

John