Max. The 'Cat is the only forum I've stuck with over the last 4ish years cos it is the only one that's worth it. I know exactly where you're coming from and I wish you all the luck in the world ( says me holding down two jobs at the moment as well). I think maybe a mudcat CD that can be touted around by those what perform profeshunnily may be a good way and through the wonders of the internet and computer techknowledgy we could probably get a boxed set together...anyone up to the task. If everybody chips in a fiver it would be neat.