Jim. I don't know how to take your post but... I suppose I must apologise at my conduct in a couple of the threads. I do not in any way consider myself a flamer, just a gbloke who has been around the Mudcat off and on for a few years and who doesn't like to see people that he likes ridiculed. I try to resist, but soemtimes can't stop the response. From now on I will ignore those types of threads. Sorry Joe.