the thing is, with Windows error messages, the 'basic' part of the message is hardcoded and usually looks the same, so a search on the exact phrase will get you many similar requests by other unfortunate folks...*grin*..and very often, an answer. (Or 47 answers to sort thru)..That's how I solved MY problem the other day...I leave it to guest(Al?) to finish the sorting and decide what fits....